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After doing the numbers, holy builds outdps shadow builds by quite a bit. The raw numbers are ed below: EDIT: Shadow damage multliers ale multlitively instead of additively. Did not know that. Ithanged the numbers slightly. HOLY DPS: 903 MPS: 173 Shadow DPS: 662 MPS: 90 Mana Restored from VE: 33 MPS MPSNet: 47 NB: Shadowan get mh higher burst damage using Mind Blast. A bas simulation of this is to add in burst DPS of 1068 every 1.5 sonds out of 7.5 sonds. This gives dps of 757. The other spelasters in the party have to hit dps of 2940 for misery to make smite equal to shadow in damage. This is rough, bause theast time intertions of SW:P and VT are going to interfere with this simulation (this probably net redes the dps a lot). Notes: 150 MP5 is amazing, VT is amazing, e. As a pure damage build, however, smite is definately higher. Boring Details: Smite 2 Sast 545 – 611 damage 385 mana Damageoef: 78.4% +15% damage (Talents) +10%rit (talents) +35% spirit to damage (assume 400 Spirit) +133 damage Assume: 20%rithae (gear) +700 damage (gear) Onrit, instant smite. Mind Flay 3 Sondhannel 528 damage 230 mana Damageoef: 57.2% +15% damage (Shadowform) +15% Damage (Shadow Weaving) +5% damage (misery) +10% damage (darkness) +800 damage gear (less rit, bause shadow doesn’t want it) SW:P 575 mana 1236 damage over 18 sonds Damageoef: 110% Holy: +5% damage (FOW) Shadow: +15% damage (Shadowform) +15% Damage (Shadow Weaving) +5% damage (misery) +10% damage (darkness) Smiter build DPS: To work in the Surge of Light prs, I had aomputerast 10,000 simulated smites, and total the damage. I used the theoretal working version of surge of light, not the buggy, soon-to-be-pahed nonsense (i.e. no manaost, norithae, 1.5 s D). I used the program to total the mana too. I really don’t think there’s any advantage in the Buggy SOL, sie SOL’s best feature is the manaost redtion (not the 0.5 sondast time removed). It does give the casionally silly-high burst dps number though I then added in the SW:P damage, removing theast time (1.5 sonds per 18 sonds) and the manaost, ftored it into the program, andame up with the final numbers Shadow MF:(528+800*.578)*1.5373 = 14293 = 476 SW:P = 174 DPS VE: 687.5*1.53715 = 66 Ftor in 1.515 and 1.524 for the dots, and you have DPS.

Are you talking about rolling on spell damage gear in five-mans and sh? If people are giving you trouble about that, find new people, that’s lame. There was a Smitelol priest in my guild. He did very good amounts of damage. The problem was that oe his mana was gone, it was *gone*. Shadowfiend is the only tool we have to regain lost mana, and that buildan burn through it pretty darn fast. (That’s one of the unspoken benefits of Mind Flay– it’s a lower-damage spell but it only ss from your mana pool, helping to pe you.) So our Smitelol priestould out-damage mages, but only until his mana ran out; in long fights theyould pass him, then lap him. For DPS priests, shadow is preferred not as mh bause its DPS blows Smitelol away but bause of its utility. Shadow priests offer more spell damage to everyone, MH more spell damage to warlks, and mana and health regeneration for the duration of the fight. The mana problem is less of an issue bause of Vampir Toh and the shadow damage boosting effts’ bonus to shadowfiend. Plus there’s silee. So shadow priests offer quite a bit besides just their own damage to a party, whh is why they’re the favored damage build. People also frown upon holy damage bause they reason that, if you’re holy, it must be for healing, and people hate being wrong.I agree with just about everythinghah said.I agree as well. What’s better – surpassing a mage in a 1-minute fight, or 23 of that damage with an added 225mana5 to your entire group, 5% boost allaster damage, and 20% boost to afflruin lks? I won’t doubt that PISoL priests (not only, but espially) put out eellent burst damage, but the staying power and the utility is severely lking outside of zomgdps fights (Vael, Kazzak, e) and PvP. EDIT: However, smiter priests often run higher with mh more spirit than shadow priests, whh makes them regen faster after running oom, and makes them a primeandidate for a spare Innervate. Thoseouldertainly be balaing points, but I still feel the utility is what’s lking. At the beginning of a group, inform them you’ll be rolling onloth damage gear. If they don’t like it, get a new group. That’s what I do when I heal with my shadow priest.

I say use a shovel. Shovel Or better yet youould use a pih fork. Pihfork I have a level 1 UD warrior who’s name is Billybob and has the whole farmer get up and has a farmers broom withrusader on it that’s right 100g ain’t no thang to me or his full bank + him full of imbued netherweave bags former guild bank ftw, and he even has some of the armour from naxx and like ZGoins and the point is moot anyways. right now (tually last night) there were 0 axes between 40 and 60. and no mes between 50 and 60. I did manage to pk up one blue me rate 56 level. only had stam and spirit, I’d rather have str, but I was desperate.an’t remember how mh I paid, maybe 15 g or so. My other me is still level 50. It has helped. Should get me to 60 till I get to outlands. Yes I’m waiting till 60. I went at 58 with my hunter, and I probably should have waited. Just wanted to see what it looked like. Down the line, I feel waiting is better. I’m using a free levelling guide (Jame’s) with my shammy anyways. It only goes till 60, and that’s where I’ll stop and do my own thing in the outlands. I don’t rommend levelling guide until you have at least one level 70. I never used one with my hunter. The real question now is do I try to find a group to get that helm for the material assistae quest for shammies? that quest looks hard. 9 elites spawn? though I read there’s a way to fight them 3 at a time. It’s hard to get groups for holo. I did a run with my 70 hunter to get pallies and warlks their ep quests. Perhaps the onlylasses that need to run holo. And I’m also worried I won’t find enough healing gear to heal the first outlands instae. And what is the first outlands instae? I skped all dungeons with my hunter whh was a mistake. I was in sh a hurry to get to 70. And now I have very little thrallmar rep, and they have aouple lw res I want. I’m hoping Ian find enough healing mail in the hellfire penin quests to be able to heal the first instae. I’ve been told I was a great healer in ST. I only had 11 points in resto at the time. I still ran out of mana oe. And the rogue died bause heharged into battle while I was still drinking. I was low on drinks (my fault for not preparing) so I was determined to finish drinking before I went to find the rogue. He thought heould tank anyways… He dropped the instae. He was the only one whoomplained about my healing, everyone else thought I did a great job.

I find a lot of axes to be pretty fast with lower top end damage bause of the greater speed. Where as most mes and fist weapons are slower with higher top end damage. You get better WF hits and SS hits with slower and high top end damage weapons whh I believe to be why a lot of axes get skped by. There are good axes out theres just less slow ones than fast ones. The flurry axe that was mentioned is a good one. thanks. I did find one good me for level 50, but I’m still using wirts third leg in my off hand.an I mix a me in mh and axe in off hand?

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Here we go – wowmb.netforumsf94…m_2_0_ap2 Looks awful, talents sk…loving and staying Destro unless levelling is too hard in whhase I’ll be Afflion up to 80 and swih bk. I wonder if, having swihed to Aff, I’ll be using the VW again…?I’ve got a lvl 70 demo lk and been thinking of doing arena, due to the gear. However, I mh rather prefer pve and not really into pvp. From seeing what people say in thehathannels, they’re looking for people with a ton of resiliee. So after seeing my resiliee around only 30 something, I’ve been painfully doing battlegrounds, for the BG gear (it gives resiliee). I’m now up to 125. Anyway, is ~125 resiliee dent to start attempting arena? Any ts for a demo lk in the arena? Should I, being a pve player, bother with pvp (battleground or arena) and just stk to instae gear? If you prefer instaesraiding, do that. If you don’tare for PvP there really isn’t any reason you have to do it (though, I do suggest the s2 weapons). The s2 gear (now available for honor) is good for early raiding and some heros, but there are dropscrafted pies that are far better for PvE and are fairly easy to obtainompared to the time-investment you need for the honor or arena pies. You have the FSW set, just add the Spellstrike pants and head, maybe a Belt of Blasting, and you’re all set for t4 and some t5 (when FSW loses some of it’s luster). Good lk!Thank you for the t. Suppose I kinda wasted the last 2 days on WoW then, with lots of time in the battlegrounds… Though I did really enjoy hitting in the top 5 for most dmg, beating my pvp friends. I even oe hit the #1 spot.

I haven’t even started in on Druids yet, mate. They’re next on my hit list )Well, when all else fails there’s one thing youan be glad with; At least demon form looksool *grins*If the rogues would be ne enough to take thier QQing over the ft that they’re only still #1 and haven’t been made #1 and 2 with tallent boosts to thier own forum, lets get bk to fusing on demon form. So cording to one person, demon form is no longer an “oh shoot” button but instead, an tual form akin to boomkin. 360% armor boost – yeah, not all that helpful – that boosts me up to 6k armor – that’s on par with, what, about a low 50s tank? O_O I guess its possible that the 71-80loth gear might have eeptional armor ratings the way the 61-70 gear had eeptional STA, so maybe this will be a tad more helpful… We get six demon tallents to reple our spells and pet – ok, how’s about a list so wean diuss them? I’ve seen – AOE shadowbolts AOE fire shield Listed so far and looking the thing up andhking out the YouTube videos, it also looks like there iswas somethingalled ‘demon leap’ whh appears to be aross between a warrior’sharge and a Tauren’s stomp. So that’s possibly three of the six abilities of demon form – what are the other three? Remember, arena isn’t the be allend all of being a lk so we should really be fusing on what this demon form talentan do for us in the other 99% of the game.iHoT, Immolate and Shadowleave I think. There’s a over at the warlks den with reenshots of all the abilities.

I hate to say it… but if you wanna DPS instaes… dont roll a warrior. (Before everyone flames the hell out of me, I am lvling a fury warrior atm, going to be arms at 70, for PvP) I understand there are some good drops you want to get out of the instaes, but unless you are planning on raiding, the gear you get from PvP rewards are better. Warriors werereated to tank, they gave us the arms and fury tree to make soloing not so *Bleh* If you are wanting to raid with your warrior… better pk up some tanking gear, and resp to Prot. I wish this wasnt the way it is, but it is. Also, im sure there are eeptions to this, but its rare. I personally know that a fury war or arms war geared cordingly isapable of out DPS’ing say a rogue or enhaement shammy. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the playing population, doesnt think outside of the box. Link to this D 6th 2007 12:15am : Logged Reply to this devioususerholarUser’s Journal1170 Good warriors do some good to amazing dps in raids.I know they do, however most players in this game are so narrow minded theyant see that. They say oh… warrior… you tank oh, rogue… you DPS. oh, Priest… you heal they dont realize that mostlasses are more versitile then what they were “Made” to do. (Ok, the rogue one was a bad example…uz there really isnt mh else theyan do, eept open lked doors…. ) Link to this D 6th 2007 12:56am : Logged Reply to this greenroomholar339 Good Get into a good guild like I have. Then you wont have to worry about PuGs with ignorant people. If a guild is any good, they will readily weome a DPS warrior if they dont already have a surplus of them. If you MUST PuG, then make sure they know you mean business. Tell them plainly that youan kk ass.

I know its sad that this happens, being able to hit high and kill fast is fun and great for questing and a warrior is not only good for tanking sure its ne to have a warrior tank but you dont need a warrior to tank. Sie you quest and BG 90% of the time having a 2H is good but if you do a dungeon and their saying u have to tank then use a 1H and shield, also let the group your in know that your not a prottion sp warrior and if theres someone in the group whoould tank better though a warrior is supposed to tank damage and keep aggro to help the party and if you get kked out bause you refuse to tank just go do something else or find a prottion warrior who loves to tank and group with him so they tank you use 2H. Link to this D 5th 2007 10:22pm : Logged Reply to this HarryPlopperholar78 Dent A lk advertised that heshe needed a dps for Hero Mh earlier today. I whered her fast and said Im a fury warrior with 1628 AP and 8,4k hp unbuffed. The lk didn’t evenare to reply. That’s why I’m gonna sp between tanking and dps for a while until I get fantast dps gear… We’re diriminated against in groups like this : Link to this D 5th 2007 11:31pm : Logged Reply to this Lorimathholar2137 Dent I dunno, I get to dps frequently on my warrior. I set up the groups, or I run with guildies. I prefer tanking on my Druid, who I’m leveling to 70 ASAP now. I tually get bored to tears dpsing instaes on my Druid, but LOVE tanking with him. Warrior, I like doing both.